santb1975
12-03 02:58 PM
None of us want to be hear that none of the provisions that favor us are in the bill. Please come forward
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chacha
03-21 11:24 AM
i may be in a similar predicament in a couple of years - what is OPT?
waitnwatch
12-19 06:53 PM
Made another $30 contribution through paypal
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gcdreamer05
08-25 02:47 PM
Thanks for sharing the experience, as some others have posted, the Visa numbers for this month have all finished for EB2, so you may need to wait till next month i guess....
Dont worry you should get it soon.....
Dont worry you should get it soon.....
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Sherman_tribiani
09-08 01:27 PM
I am surprised that I haven’t been banned yet. Since, I am not; I will fight till the end. Now, you fellas must be eagerly waiting for my replies. Though you are not worth my time, but have patience, I am still going to reply to you all one by one, clearing any doubts you might have.
This will be my contribution to protect our way of living ...
Message to the people moderating this forum: You call yourselves an open forum then show some guts, let me present my points. I am going to be posting series of messages and will try to be "Civil". But don't you dare to lock me out
This will be my contribution to protect our way of living ...
Message to the people moderating this forum: You call yourselves an open forum then show some guts, let me present my points. I am going to be posting series of messages and will try to be "Civil". But don't you dare to lock me out
amsgc
08-21 07:30 PM
Thanks for your response earlier.
I don't think you are lying, but it is possible that you may have misunderstood something. Anyway, we will know what's going on in a few weeks.
Take it easy now.
I really don't understand why people think I am lying????
When I read the memo, I was more worried about my name check and whether she would check the status of it than about this, as anyhow my dates are not current. After showing the memo, she did offer to check the status.
With all the experience our guys have with USCIS officers and staff, it's hard to belive an IO would be that helpful? But, she's and even the staff at this office is not as bad as others have experienced.
I was even telling my wife about the behaviour and how staff at other offices behave.
I don't think you are lying, but it is possible that you may have misunderstood something. Anyway, we will know what's going on in a few weeks.
Take it easy now.
I really don't understand why people think I am lying????
When I read the memo, I was more worried about my name check and whether she would check the status of it than about this, as anyhow my dates are not current. After showing the memo, she did offer to check the status.
With all the experience our guys have with USCIS officers and staff, it's hard to belive an IO would be that helpful? But, she's and even the staff at this office is not as bad as others have experienced.
I was even telling my wife about the behaviour and how staff at other offices behave.
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ItIsNotFunny
08-25 03:19 PM
I guess My interview didn't go as expected.
1) I reached the office an hour early.
2) After waiting,they did security check and let us in
3) Then the lady who was assigned my case, came and took us into her room
4) Oath, etc
5) She then started asking for Birth cert, Marriage Cert, kids birth certi, 140 approval copy.
6) Then she pulled a file (which was labelled DOS Visa bulletins) and spent around 15 mins on Oct 2007 bulletin.
7) Then asked us who filed your 485..you did your self or your employer did..we said employer.
8) Then she said, something is not right..per Oct 2007 bulleting Visa's are unavailable so yours was not filed properly.
9) Then I said, ours was filed in Aug 8th 2007. She insisted the receipt date is oct 2007..then we showed her our 485 reciept.
10) Then she thanked us and started looking at Aug 2007 visa bulletin. and said, even then in Aug 2007 EB2 was U, so yours was not properly filed.
11) I told her, There was an interim Memo released by USCIS that they will accept application until Aug-17 2007 based on July 2007 visa bulletin
12) She said she will look at DOS bulletins
13) After 10 mins she said, she cant find any such memo..and said, since there is no evidence with her, she has to deny our case based on "Improper filing when PD was not current"
14) Then I said, if PD was not current, wouldn't TSC return the application denying on the spot? Why would they accept the application?
15) She said, you would think so..but they accept many times..so we are told to verify all the time
16) THen said, she believes us but for process, she needs evidence and said she will look into further and then make a judgment.
17) We had no choice and we were over the interview. we were little disappointed though
18) After coming home, I realized she took all I-94s and we got panicked..because if 485 is getting denied and I-94s are gone, how do we prove our legal status, so we thought of going back..then I thought, if have to go anyway, then I should take a print out of Interim Memo
19) I went back an hour later with the print out
20) I told security that, we had finished our interview and officer forgot to return our I-94..they insisted that we shud take infopass and they wont allow anyone to go back..I had to really argue with them (I decided I have nothing to loose..anyway 485 is screwed and so stood there asking them to let me in)
21) After consistent nagging, the security guy took our passports, interview response letter(After interview if your app doesn't get appproved they willgive a kind of reciept saying u attended the interview..blahblah) and went in
22) Came back and told me to go in since the officer wants more details from you (I thought this was a miracle)
23) I went inside, and after a while officer came back. We apologized and told her that we came back for I-94s..she said they will retain and wont return..We told her that we are not using EAD and we are still on H1B..she said she will give back..
then she asked, I am sure you didnt come back for I-94 alone, did you get any document?
24) We showed her the memo.
25) She read that and said I am glad you came back..this clears everything out..I will run this by my supervisor and will see if we can adjust status today
26) We waited for 2 hrs and then she took us inside.
27) Asked our passports (to stamp...really)
28) Then she looked into the computer to get the visa #.
29) The we noticed a changed in her face and then she quickly turned into a folder of current VISA bulletin..we said..oh..no..not again.
30) The officer said, per visa bulletin u r current and ur PD is dec 2005..there is no reason for system not to allocated a visa #..
31)She tried for 10-15 mins and finally gave up..said she cant stamp in the passport without allotting the visa number..said sorry..I cant do anything..I will follow up with DOS ppl and will let you know in a week or so.
32) The reason she gave is, when she tried to allot the visa, she got a message, "cut off date not established". I have no idea what this means.
hmmm....still keeping fingers crossed..this is nothing short of a car race.
:confused:
I am sorry to hear about your situation. Wish you good luck for GC, I hope you get it soon.
1) I reached the office an hour early.
2) After waiting,they did security check and let us in
3) Then the lady who was assigned my case, came and took us into her room
4) Oath, etc
5) She then started asking for Birth cert, Marriage Cert, kids birth certi, 140 approval copy.
6) Then she pulled a file (which was labelled DOS Visa bulletins) and spent around 15 mins on Oct 2007 bulletin.
7) Then asked us who filed your 485..you did your self or your employer did..we said employer.
8) Then she said, something is not right..per Oct 2007 bulleting Visa's are unavailable so yours was not filed properly.
9) Then I said, ours was filed in Aug 8th 2007. She insisted the receipt date is oct 2007..then we showed her our 485 reciept.
10) Then she thanked us and started looking at Aug 2007 visa bulletin. and said, even then in Aug 2007 EB2 was U, so yours was not properly filed.
11) I told her, There was an interim Memo released by USCIS that they will accept application until Aug-17 2007 based on July 2007 visa bulletin
12) She said she will look at DOS bulletins
13) After 10 mins she said, she cant find any such memo..and said, since there is no evidence with her, she has to deny our case based on "Improper filing when PD was not current"
14) Then I said, if PD was not current, wouldn't TSC return the application denying on the spot? Why would they accept the application?
15) She said, you would think so..but they accept many times..so we are told to verify all the time
16) THen said, she believes us but for process, she needs evidence and said she will look into further and then make a judgment.
17) We had no choice and we were over the interview. we were little disappointed though
18) After coming home, I realized she took all I-94s and we got panicked..because if 485 is getting denied and I-94s are gone, how do we prove our legal status, so we thought of going back..then I thought, if have to go anyway, then I should take a print out of Interim Memo
19) I went back an hour later with the print out
20) I told security that, we had finished our interview and officer forgot to return our I-94..they insisted that we shud take infopass and they wont allow anyone to go back..I had to really argue with them (I decided I have nothing to loose..anyway 485 is screwed and so stood there asking them to let me in)
21) After consistent nagging, the security guy took our passports, interview response letter(After interview if your app doesn't get appproved they willgive a kind of reciept saying u attended the interview..blahblah) and went in
22) Came back and told me to go in since the officer wants more details from you (I thought this was a miracle)
23) I went inside, and after a while officer came back. We apologized and told her that we came back for I-94s..she said they will retain and wont return..We told her that we are not using EAD and we are still on H1B..she said she will give back..
then she asked, I am sure you didnt come back for I-94 alone, did you get any document?
24) We showed her the memo.
25) She read that and said I am glad you came back..this clears everything out..I will run this by my supervisor and will see if we can adjust status today
26) We waited for 2 hrs and then she took us inside.
27) Asked our passports (to stamp...really)
28) Then she looked into the computer to get the visa #.
29) The we noticed a changed in her face and then she quickly turned into a folder of current VISA bulletin..we said..oh..no..not again.
30) The officer said, per visa bulletin u r current and ur PD is dec 2005..there is no reason for system not to allocated a visa #..
31)She tried for 10-15 mins and finally gave up..said she cant stamp in the passport without allotting the visa number..said sorry..I cant do anything..I will follow up with DOS ppl and will let you know in a week or so.
32) The reason she gave is, when she tried to allot the visa, she got a message, "cut off date not established". I have no idea what this means.
hmmm....still keeping fingers crossed..this is nothing short of a car race.
:confused:
I am sorry to hear about your situation. Wish you good luck for GC, I hope you get it soon.
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needhelp!
11-16 11:28 PM
awesome idea gsc!
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dallasdude
04-13 06:14 PM
This ain't nothing. Wait until the second wave of labor substituted EB3 applicants port their case from EB3 to EB2 or EB1 .Talk about a double whammy. Except a bigger hit in the next year or two when most of the porting succeeds.
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madhuvj
09-18 11:55 AM
I have given my phone number several times, even you can have it ( 412 915 9526 ) but the admin is not willing to call me. I believe GCStatus has sent his phone number too. I have been a member here since July 2007, based on the GCStatus credentials, he has created his ID just a month or so. Why would I all of a sudden fake my ID when I have such a good reputation in this site. You can visit all my posts.
I hope you got convinced. If yes, please talk to our super Admin.
Thanks
madhuVJ
Quote :
grupak
Senior Member Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 535
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Are you guys anonymous? Why is the admin asking for your phone number? Didn't you fill in your actual name, phone number to reach you in case IV needs your help.
You have to be willing to help if you want to lead.
I hope you got convinced. If yes, please talk to our super Admin.
Thanks
madhuVJ
Quote :
grupak
Senior Member Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 535
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Are you guys anonymous? Why is the admin asking for your phone number? Didn't you fill in your actual name, phone number to reach you in case IV needs your help.
You have to be willing to help if you want to lead.
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InTheMoment
08-18 12:30 PM
jsb,
Yes...I am aware of the facts that you mention...but now that data entry is made since long, the ND has no value.
Last year when the EB2 PD's were current for 28 days in August, only those RD's whose data was entered in TSC had chance of getting GC's. In other words, receipts are now generated for all '07 fiasco filers and hence the ND has no value!
That said if a Service Center rep says about the ND replacing the RD in their system, then it is time for corrective action. With these small windows of PD being current, why take chances!
No, it is not always a 2 month gap. Normally RD (on your receipt), the data entry date (you see online as "your case was received on..."), and ND should be in quick succession. It was only in July/Aug 07 when due to high volumes many cases (including mine) waited for data entry for months, as no center wanted to accept that additional responsbility. Those whose cases were entered in July/Aug 07, became ahead of those whose cases were entered in Sept and Oct 07, no matter when they filed or what their RD (as on the receipt). People with PD in 2005 and 2006 who got GC last year were those lucky ones who cases were entered in the system in July, Aug (and may be some in Sept) 07.
Yes...I am aware of the facts that you mention...but now that data entry is made since long, the ND has no value.
Last year when the EB2 PD's were current for 28 days in August, only those RD's whose data was entered in TSC had chance of getting GC's. In other words, receipts are now generated for all '07 fiasco filers and hence the ND has no value!
That said if a Service Center rep says about the ND replacing the RD in their system, then it is time for corrective action. With these small windows of PD being current, why take chances!
No, it is not always a 2 month gap. Normally RD (on your receipt), the data entry date (you see online as "your case was received on..."), and ND should be in quick succession. It was only in July/Aug 07 when due to high volumes many cases (including mine) waited for data entry for months, as no center wanted to accept that additional responsbility. Those whose cases were entered in July/Aug 07, became ahead of those whose cases were entered in Sept and Oct 07, no matter when they filed or what their RD (as on the receipt). People with PD in 2005 and 2006 who got GC last year were those lucky ones who cases were entered in the system in July, Aug (and may be some in Sept) 07.
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Immi_Nightmare
07-05 08:09 PM
Guys, any reason why we have a whopping 70% of the members not interested in contributing to this idea??
There is nothing illegal or offensive in a humble protest, so why the lack of interest?? Are you worried that you'll be pulled up for a humble protest?
It's not even that expensive to send a bunch of flowers. We have to come together and do something here to implore the USCIS to reform the immigration process. Just lurking around , and not doing anything about this is not going to bring about any reforms to this dysfunctional system.
I would love to know the rationale behind your lack of interest. Appreciate if you can speak up as to why you wouldn't want to join in. Atleast let us know if you have a better idea. Doing nothing and playing the wait-and-see game is probably the worst option.
There is nothing illegal or offensive in a humble protest, so why the lack of interest?? Are you worried that you'll be pulled up for a humble protest?
It's not even that expensive to send a bunch of flowers. We have to come together and do something here to implore the USCIS to reform the immigration process. Just lurking around , and not doing anything about this is not going to bring about any reforms to this dysfunctional system.
I would love to know the rationale behind your lack of interest. Appreciate if you can speak up as to why you wouldn't want to join in. Atleast let us know if you have a better idea. Doing nothing and playing the wait-and-see game is probably the worst option.
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pappu
12-18 07:10 PM
Thanks eb3 retro, baleraosreedhar and Praveen (sw33t).
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04-20 09:42 AM
...just send me an alternate email id if you don't get it.
Thanks!
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02-25 10:10 AM
Great Idea. We can have a poll on this just to see how many support this.
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07-05 07:16 PM
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I wish we can somehow capture the delivery on film. The reaction will be worth the while. Also someone needs to tip off the media to be there.
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thomachan72
12-05 11:32 AM
Hello Ronhira,
If some orphan or homeless break your front door and enter into your house, would you allow him to stay with your family on Humanity basis ?
Why first of all INTENTIONALLY she entered other's territory ?
Tx
Long time back when the british ruled India a lot of our ancestors joined their ranks and spit on fellow Indians. They were not realizing that actually the british were using them to rule effectively. That same trait has remained ever since. This is one of the greatest sin of the Indian and also many other third world cultures. They act on opportunistic thought patterns trying to gain favor whenever the opportunity arises even if it meant spitting on their own relatives. Sympathy, compasssion, honesty and integrity is often forgotten and/or purposefully suppressed for apeasement of the rulers. The feeling that you are being ruled and not in control of your own life is what really promotes such self righteous thoughts.
If you analyze this situation you will realize that there is a debate going among american citizens regarding legalizing the 11 million folks here and those favoring are in majority now. Realize then that this is a transition phase and those who dont like this to happen are trying to do as much harm as possible. causing a girl to deliver while being tied down and asking you and me to take a driving test each time you go to extend your visa are all part of this very same process. Remember that there are many many times more americans who would support, love and care for that girl than those who care/resepct/love you.
If some orphan or homeless break your front door and enter into your house, would you allow him to stay with your family on Humanity basis ?
Why first of all INTENTIONALLY she entered other's territory ?
Tx
Long time back when the british ruled India a lot of our ancestors joined their ranks and spit on fellow Indians. They were not realizing that actually the british were using them to rule effectively. That same trait has remained ever since. This is one of the greatest sin of the Indian and also many other third world cultures. They act on opportunistic thought patterns trying to gain favor whenever the opportunity arises even if it meant spitting on their own relatives. Sympathy, compasssion, honesty and integrity is often forgotten and/or purposefully suppressed for apeasement of the rulers. The feeling that you are being ruled and not in control of your own life is what really promotes such self righteous thoughts.
If you analyze this situation you will realize that there is a debate going among american citizens regarding legalizing the 11 million folks here and those favoring are in majority now. Realize then that this is a transition phase and those who dont like this to happen are trying to do as much harm as possible. causing a girl to deliver while being tied down and asking you and me to take a driving test each time you go to extend your visa are all part of this very same process. Remember that there are many many times more americans who would support, love and care for that girl than those who care/resepct/love you.
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chanduy9
07-03 02:43 PM
this is to track how many sent the flowers..so that by the end of the day we will know how many sent, no need to count in all the threads...
Pls send flowers..it may help us.
Pls send flowers..it may help us.
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paskal
07-10 07:52 PM
it goes deeper than that. first let me point out that this is philosophical- you argument is not about law, it's about a point of view.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
Sorry but I don't agree with your point that if EB2 benefits today EB3 would benefit tomorrow. It looks plain and simple but it's not so in reality. Unless all EB2 categories become current and EB3 ROW get the overflow and become current, EB3 I (or China or Mexico) is not going to be benefitted from EB2 getting a VISA! You are basically saying to EB3 filers to wait for another 10 years so that the EB2 queue may reduce so that EB3 queue would start moving. That's not a practical solution.
I think once there is an overflow (from EB1), then it should:
1. go to the category that's retrogressed more or
2. split the overflow among retrogressed categories and
3. go to EB2 if both EB2 and EB3 have the same cut off date.
Does US need more EB2 (than EB3) or need them sooner (than EB3)? If they need more EB2, then EB2 can get more numbers (but the restriction should happen at H1/L1 level). If they need them sooner, then they can be on a fast track. But by approving a EB3 or EB2 I140, the Govt. is saying that they need that particular applicant. A vast difference between these two categories at the last queue (485) does not make sense.
It is insane to ask a EB3 I 2001 filer to wait forever just because he filed under EB3 and grant a VISA to EB2 2004 filer! It is not different from granting a VISA to a EB3 2007 ROW filer and making EB3 I 2001 wait. EB2 is taking all the overflow which, in my view, is not correct. EB2 is benefitting at the cost of EB3 I (China and Mexico). EB3 ROW is benefitting at the cost of EB3 I (China and Mexico). Just my opinion.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
Sorry but I don't agree with your point that if EB2 benefits today EB3 would benefit tomorrow. It looks plain and simple but it's not so in reality. Unless all EB2 categories become current and EB3 ROW get the overflow and become current, EB3 I (or China or Mexico) is not going to be benefitted from EB2 getting a VISA! You are basically saying to EB3 filers to wait for another 10 years so that the EB2 queue may reduce so that EB3 queue would start moving. That's not a practical solution.
I think once there is an overflow (from EB1), then it should:
1. go to the category that's retrogressed more or
2. split the overflow among retrogressed categories and
3. go to EB2 if both EB2 and EB3 have the same cut off date.
Does US need more EB2 (than EB3) or need them sooner (than EB3)? If they need more EB2, then EB2 can get more numbers (but the restriction should happen at H1/L1 level). If they need them sooner, then they can be on a fast track. But by approving a EB3 or EB2 I140, the Govt. is saying that they need that particular applicant. A vast difference between these two categories at the last queue (485) does not make sense.
It is insane to ask a EB3 I 2001 filer to wait forever just because he filed under EB3 and grant a VISA to EB2 2004 filer! It is not different from granting a VISA to a EB3 2007 ROW filer and making EB3 I 2001 wait. EB2 is taking all the overflow which, in my view, is not correct. EB2 is benefitting at the cost of EB3 I (China and Mexico). EB3 ROW is benefitting at the cost of EB3 I (China and Mexico). Just my opinion.
cableching
08-21 05:41 PM
Are you EB3 ?
I am EB2 and my Priority Date is not current and it is 06 Sept 2006. I just wanted to check if my name check was cleared.
I am EB2 and my Priority Date is not current and it is 06 Sept 2006. I just wanted to check if my name check was cleared.
PlainSpeak
04-15 09:43 PM
So typical of you guys. Once you lose an argument you start abusing and if the opponent is a female its more the merrier for you guys. Do you even know the basis rule of being polite with everyone in USA. So if the guy is an american you will kiss his feet. The moment the person is an indian you start abusing if it is an indian female then you have a licence to abuse
And these are the kinds of people who will get US citizenshiph
And these are the kinds of people who will get US citizenshiph
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